Kpop industry reddit Every season wondering if an idol A few years back, one of the kpop jokes was to post innocent videos of Kpop idols doing normal stuff (a simple vlog for example) on p_rnh_b with misleading titles ('7 asian twinks in a steamy room' and it's just idols vloging in a waiting room). Yes, the choreography has gotten harder and safer (looking at you tumbling 2PM), but the idols abilities have improved too. true. Its something along the lines as if you are too sexy and provocative then you are viewed as a sl*t. For me I think: Gdragon- he was a child actor and from there went on to be in one of the biggest kpop boygroups, he has been on TV since he was a kid. I do believe that the Big 4 are at the top of the industry for a good reason. High-waisted jeans are actually the trend in South Korea and we all know how the GP and KPOP industry are serious in following the trend. Eventhough idk much about west countries in china PK and Dangal was pretty huge i believe. personally i think they’ve gotten better at presenting their groups, and some things might’ve gotten ‘better’ but in general i think it’s just a better surface, and the reason to why some things look better is because we have K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Secondly, how much do you feel the industry could be improved before the main draws of K-pop and idols becomes unviable? TripleS company Modhaus has made it so the members get directly paid for the sales of their digital photocards, so before they had even officially debuted the members got paid whereas most often trainees and new idols have to This community stands in solidarity with the current protest action against Reddit's decisions regarding changes to their API access policy. I'm not sure if there's a 100% certified way to really get into Kpop but I think learning certain aspects of the industry and to some extent Korean culture through one group could be easier than being overwhelmed by several groups at one time. there's much Only time I ever see foreigners working in the kpop industry is usually as producers for songs. Western fans turn a blind eye to a lot of things, in the West r/kpoppers is a subreddit for K-Pop fan-created content, lighthearted articles, funny K-Pop memes, and fun discussions about K-Pop. kpop is the industry. She wouldn't sign a contract that doesn't benefit her especially when she has children to feed. Many of us on reddit are not licensed to help you and if you truly want to be better you have to invest time and energy into healing over kpop. Yuri's brother. That’s my point. Morally questionable but nothing sexual and only with adult idols. In kpop, I might casually decide to go to another group's concert, but a non-kpop person wouldn't decide to attend a kpop All fax no printer. there are tons of well-liked and successful American K-pop idols in the industry, a lot of the time idols who are fluent in English become very popular with international fans and can get promoted well by their companies for that. When it comes to K-Pop artists and K-Pop culture, every fan has different opinions. , Girls Generation, BTS and more. What are some options for careers in the kpop industry besides being a performer? Any insight is appreciated. also kpop isn't going to fadeout without BTS. As you can see on this thread, people who are living in Korea are telling you that kpop nowadays isn't that different from before. The Influence of Big Ice Cream on the Kpop Industry: PART 2: 122 comments 14 and the posts are primarily about revealing the couples. If the kpop industry and this can even be taken to outside of kpop, if they were to not look for perfection they would get hate. What are the legendary posts or comments on kpop reddit no one allowed to forget? (2) What are some kpop idols you think were/are destined for fame. The fact that solo artist during the earlier days of Kpop during 2009-2015 , they faced many competition with Kpop group which actually bring profitability to Kpop companies especially for the top three company like SM Ent, JYP and YG. Yukika has become the first female kpop soloist outside of the big 4 agency who is married and is currently pregnant that has released 1 album and was born on the 16th of February 1993 to reach #1 on the billboard global weekly It’s only getting more competitive. Just seeing the wonder girls on the Wendy Williams show or snsd on letterman was incredible and extraordinary. So for anyone in r/unpopularkpopopinions , there's an opinion post saying that Hyolyn of SISTAR is the true ACE of KPOP. DBSK was my first Kpop group, I freaking loved them more than anything, and remember how heartbroken I was when JYJ left (hell, even just the rumours before the split had me anxious), and all the in-fandom arguing between Cassiopeia who sided with Yunho and Changmin, and those who sided with Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu. She knows how the industry works. Even though in this the speaker is talking about our parasocial relationships with fictional characters such as Harry Potter, a lot of points overlap with parasocial relationships with real celebrities too. sure, there's a few success stories, but in I started liking ONF recently, I love all the members and most especially their songs. However, don't you think the problem, or at the very least a part of the problem, is the k-pop industry or those idols Maybe someone who's part of the MV making team? MV's are a very crucial part of Kpop and have always been one of the main marketing tactics for a Kpop group. While K-pop is still definitely a niche in the west the growth K-pop has experienced in the west alone is astounding to see. Members Online. This is the global dual-language Reddit home of the country Vietnam. Reply reply Another thing is that the whole k-pop industry is competitive. People here (aka reddit) want adult to debut and is This is only my thought about IU's career and will probably be a bit biased and also im not korean. The reality is, BTS is an anomaly. think about it; most idols that come from major companies came from money, and if they haven't, they're most likely good looking or had some type of following/fanbase even before they were idols. That’s okay though because honestly if BTS hadn’t done it first and they hadn’t gave all these other groups and Kpop exposure these groups would’ve never achieved anything substantial anyway. I agree, but it's a lot more prevalent and visible with k-pop. Sf9 chani- he was a child actor too then went on to become a kpop idol then starred in sky Castle one of the biggest kdramas ever to be honest i don't know what comments you've been seeing but i'm pretty sure people are saying specific idols have certain masculine traits, not that "kpop is a masculine industry". ”. And on a national level, the society is very closed off to being ‘international’ perhaps? While international K-pop communities can also be ageist, it’s a lot more accepted in the west that generally, outside of K-pop, older artists can be successful. So I don’t see me supporting AI kpop stars. I think this is unpopular because clearly, the countering opinion is an opinion held by many. Kpop as an industry is the problem. japanese music isn't afraid to be japanese. From the Kpop categories at western award shows to Kpop groups being signed with U. Same thing that happens in the music industry happens everywhere. If the management polices idols actions too much like they did pre 2013, like no dating rules, then management is criticized for being restrictive and intrusive. I've been seeing a lot of r/nba and r/kpop crossovers and just wondered what it would be like if idols could ask for trades if they're not happy with their company. i actually don't have specific playlists (the most specific ones are for the year so i can remember what songs i liked because the years mix up in my head sometimes) BUT i'm working on some playlists for my wedding, especially since for the party i want to put lots of kpop and my dj doesn't really know about kpop so i gave her a big one with references and a shorter one with the View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. Thus (K)pop vocal coaches never train their idols to be vocalists, but singers that sing songs in Of course, there are some idols who do choose to stay in the K-pop industry for the long haul. also, so much goes into image and status within kpop that jrock just will never care about. 's Shoo, who is only half japanese. In addition to music, K-Pop has grown into a popular subculture, resulting in widespread interest in the fashion and style of Korean idol groups and singers. Even if you are son/ daughter of the most popular celebrity in korea, it might not work if you want to be kpop idols but i can see nepo baby striving in modelling and acting industry bcs you dont depend on your members or company. And on a national level, the society is very closed off to being ‘international’ perhaps? Welcome to r/kpopthoughts, the friendly community for fans of the Korean music industry and everything within it. It’s ok to say I like Kpop but they’re certain things about the industry that needs to change. It's both. He's really only scratched the surface of kpop as an industry, the recent parts that the Western world knows about. 2. Honestly this proved to me that some ifans are stupid for think that this scandal is a cover up to nth room, when I’m 100% sure that Koreans that are not interested in kpop don’t give to shit about kpop or this scandal. Click here to find out Looking at the groups of 2013, there’s nothing really significant about the way most of them disbanded. She has longevity and relevancy 13 years into her career because even tho she debuted and has been marketed first as an idol, she transitioned into being an artist/musician in the public's eyes (idol and artist seems different for koreans, correct me if im wrong). But I hope the industry makes small changes to it's system before *touch wood* a Sushant like case happens there. It was one of two reasons he left Korea, one was to challenge himself as the best in his industry, and the other was to not expose his own children to the corruption. What does the K-Pop industry you think should do more and should do less? All there in the title. Like sure, I’m betting a lot of idols like the majority of fan interactions they have. /r/immigration is protesting Reddit's API changes. I really thought that it was common sense that a whole country don’t revolves around kpop, but I was wrong lol. ex: beyonce, kanye west, even miley cyrus. I think people like Shannon who are racially korean but ethnically they identify as british are not common in the kpop industry because british culture is their normal. Kpop Here's the incoming buzzword. I was very delusional during my first years as a Kpop fan, thinking I could make it in the industry or at least as a superstar. As someone else mentioned, I don’t even like it when artists lipsynch because I feel It's not that kpop isn't still loved or that it's disappearing from western markets, but the scale of growth and the level of visibility have definitely shifted. A tough workload and pushing idols beyond their limits was only ONE of the reasons why the kpop industry (and any other entertainment industry) is 137 votes, 28 comments. Join us for game Everything that’s happening isn’t at all surprising considering the fact the kpop industry encourages and thrives off these obsessive parasocial relationships. I think the only prominent one from a famous group is S. To be K-pop, the artist has to have gone through the idol system, go on music shows etc etc. I could go on forever. It's not the fans bro its the way the kpop industry is. and let's not even get into the disturbing implications of Korean pop's near-total global ubiquity may be intimidating for the uninitiated, but getting into the music shouldn't be. Is how important power brokers are in world. allkpop. Every idol trainee named Taeyeon will have to change their name once they debut bc all the searches will just be SNSD Taeyeon But for every "one-off" there is a whole system supporting these people. The industry pumps out idols with perfect hair, perfect bodies, perfect makeup, and perfect looks. 3M subscribers in the kpop community. now comparing jpop and kpop is a different story that i think is fun to In my opinion, BTS aren't trying super hard to be slick and sexy. A lot of things are present for fan engagement which you may not find in other industries. and only media calls it kpop. They don't nearly get the dues and deals the English singers get who are backed by the industry. A post on r/Music subreddit claims that the K-Pop industry is disturbing and has a dark side that is hard to ignore. now comparing jpop and kpop is a different story that i think is fun to I normally don't rant anymore in kpop because I will never win anyway nor people would understand. Barely any of the non-kpop artists I follow have put out full albums (or any music at all) within the past 2 years. I don't think the western music industry is perfect either, lots of very bad shit happens under the table. I find that Idols in k-pop don’t have that choice, so that’s a huge difference. It really concerns me because a lot (I would say the majority) of kpop stans are girls in their teens and having that standard without EXPLICITLY being told that those looks are product of surgeries, make up and image editing can be very detrimental to their self steem :c (kind of Since kdrama and kpop overlap sometimes, Filipinos might have found their way to kpop from watching kdramas. Man, this post reminded me of why I stayed away from kpop during the early years. Some of these opinions are more popular than others, and some are considered downright A user asks questions about KPop as a genre, its structure, trends and culture, and gets answers from other users and links to resources. u know even with english content it isn't just hollywood(US), we have british,australian industry K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. The staff of kpop industry havent done anything wrong. Majority idols as well don't have some kind of recognition before they sign with K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. For the most part, idols who want to have a long and successful career will eventually need to transition to acting. . These just add to the variety in K-pop. but when we go back to the literal beginning of kpop, the forming and initial popularizing of the industry, when the gp was more interested in kpop than they are today, when kpop was becoming an Kpop industry is literally fucked because they purposely target KIDS so they can groom and control them from a young age. the kpop industry isn’t unique, there are similar industries and places where the same expectations exist. The top comment on the original article about Kush currently has 23k upvotes and is still trending at #12 on NAVER - so about as much heat as TOP got - which surprises me tbh. This is some damn strong "we're all doomed" vibes. kpop will never be a top genre in the u. There is really nothing left for KPOP groups to achieve because it will always be “BTS did it first”. This comes after the recent Kush case reported on this sub. like in terms of sales and popularity currently, hybe is certainly on par w the others at the top and you could def say they’re part of the big4. The subreddit will therefore reflect as such. I get why people have issues with the "kpop machine. Their fans are even worse. The friendlier part of Reddit. And if u are talented, u may get scouted by companies to debut in the kpop industry. I don't see the fans of those artists get all worked up over dating scandals or if their artist is not really good looking or anything. Log In / Sign Up; Head over to r/kpop for official K-Pop content like music videos and more serious artists, genres, content, or industry/cultural issues. So of course misamo never opened the kpop wave in japan. because of this, was much harder for asians to make it big or show their talents globally, but as i said, kpop is becoming something where asians can finally Idols train very hard to be able to sing and dance, together too. Wether or not the MV is centred around a lore, doesn't matter. More than the music the idol is the product. I am not an Army so I had no personal feelings on the matter. It is currently getting a lot of heat from k-netz. What Aspects from the K-Pop Industry Are You Surprised Haven’t Made Their Way Into the West? Discussion For me when it comes to groups, I’m really surprised that biasas towards certain members (Ex: “My bias from Fifth Harmony is Normani. OP wasn't purely critical, they praised Jungkook several time for his talent and their complaints lay more in the creative direction and agreeing with a review that the album deserved 2. They could have searched for an actor, only to find out that it is an idol or they could have been curious about the kpop industry when it was mentioned in the dramas. S. My suggestion is just try to do dance and singing cover and upload in your social media and see how well your follower reacts. In addition to music, K-Pop has r/kpoppers is a subreddit for K-Pop fan-created content, lighthearted articles, funny K-Pop memes, and fun discussions about K-Pop. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Hi all, so I have really enjoyed kpop for almost ten years, I’m 24 this year. They also comment on the trends, schedules, You should post this on r/music, the loop industry is not worse than any other industry and especially not the western industry, people talk about K-pop "slave contracts" as if 360 deals A place to ask your K-Pop questions. The kpop industry is more saturated than it was back in 2012-2014. ”) and fan cams aren’t Hello and welcome to r/kpopthoughts, a discussion-based subreddit focused on the Korean music industry and all its players! We are dedicated to fostering healthy discussions and exchanges of perspectives and opinions about all things K-Pop! Be sure to read our rules and posting guidelines before participating! r/kpopthoughts Rules and Regulations The American Music industry definitely still has a lot of this and I imagine the Kpop industry is no exception. I truly don't understand those who think that Kpop is something uniquely "Korean" and that non-Asians would "ruin" it and make it not Kpop. I'd say you have a very western way of understanding masculinity. r/kpoppers is a subreddit for K-Pop fan-created content, lighthearted articles, funny K-Pop memes, and fun discussions about K-Pop. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop Suppose Kanye West does a concert in India. the whole industry would have to change in order for that to happen. koreans call it idol music. In social spheres both in- and outside of KPop, the idea that everything in the industry is fake and manufactured is getting out of hand. The same way WayV functions and and is treated similarly to their Korean equivalents. Head over to r/kpop for official K-Pop content like music K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Subsequently, I saw (G)I-dle's Studio Choom performance of Tomboy and I was glad that I can finally see some belly buttons. Feels like IZ*ONE impact really got accentuated by IVE & Lesserafim. Your contribution in r/kpopthoughts has been automatically removed because you either do not meet the minimum karma requirements to post in r/kpopthoughts (which is 30 comment karma), or because your account is less than 7 days old. It's not just KPop; western pop is the same but I will say that there's an argument to be made about it being even more pronounced in KPop. This I'd rather see people there get into kpop rather than the industry itself making more moves to cater to and get into the market there. Like, there have been non-Koreans in Kpop since 2nd gen (maybe even earlier but I don't know much about 1st gen Kpop), and as this sub well knows, Kpop is already heavily influenced by black music. 😭😭😭 whenever kpop is mentioned on reddit they somehow always mention how messed up the industry is, or how “everyone looks like girls”. A lot of "facts" in kpop are a result of massive hearsay left unchecked. Their growth and global impact were phenomenal, but it's crucial to understand that their path isn't the blueprint for the entire kpop industry. Welcome to r/kpopthoughts, the friendly community for fans of the Korean music industry and everything within it. Chào mừng bạn đến với ngôi nhà trên Reddit của Việt Nam. I've That applies to Blackpink as a whole, they all look like children trapped inside a woman's body, but she is the most extreme case. Kpop probably feels somewhat foreign to them even though they are korean. kpop or korean content recieved the attention that was long overdue. Basically you need to delve deep into the kpop industry to be shookt and K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Whether it be all the 'dark side of K-pop' things, or anything else relating to K-pop, the fandom has a gift of taking something that is shared publically, quickly taking it from 0 to 100, and then bypassing 100 and making it even more exaggerated than it already was at 100. People would go to his concert even if they aren't hardcore Kanye fans which is why he might not have an issue doing a concert here. However, what western people perceive to be "K-pop" is actually called "idol music" in South Korea. Do it for 6 months and lets see how you do and how u cope with the comments, people in the kpop industry got it harder. I’m so happy they are getting more recognition now! But since i’m not very well versed with the Kpop industry, i keep wondering if ONF is earning enough money so that they can continue promoting. Seungri. I could have sworn that Reddit opinion of IZ*ONE have changed vastly from 2020 and 2023. In addition to music, K-Pop has View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. The way people talk about the kpop industry is stupid. Just look at the fact that there are 6 music shows each week and a K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. and as the person above, true korean music is nothing alike kpop. Even if thats not a vald argument and proves nothing. I was pretty sad that many well known groups either disbanded or some members leaving for various reasons. " is a lot more different compared to the kpop I think America has it's token K-pop boy group (BTS) and K-pop girl group (BP) to validate that yes, they do include global musicians, yes they love k-pop, but in reality I don't think they're willing to make room for any other acts. This is the main reason why it's a nightmare to put any grp name on reddit. Girl almost everything about kpop is based on mysoginy Girl groups tend to sell less but are more popular, so companies will usually promote a girl group to gain popularity before ditching them and giving boy groups more attention Yes, I realize this is not exclusive to the Kpop industry or even South Korea, but this is a Kpop community which is why the focus of this discussion is on the Kpop industry. And yet, because of the company he works for and the topics he chooses to write about, kpop fans and unassuming Korean people hell-bent on Western validation treats him like he is one. the u. However, these idols are often the exception rather than the rule. The post is archived and comments are closed. The whole "visuals" thing is massively important in the industry, and it's considered something akin to I was very delusional during my first years as a Kpop fan, thinking I could make it in the industry or at least as a superstar. I knew of kpop through my friends who were into 2nd gen idols but I also heard all about slave contracts, harsh trainee conditions and outright physical abuse which made me consciously dislike the whole industry at that time. It might be difficult to see nepo baby succeed in kpop industry bcs kpop mostly depend on their company who make them. No I’m not talking about that. But let's not forget the many universally masculine traits that permeate the k-pop industry. More: promoting K-pop as an industry is very fandom focused and fandom driven. the non idols/artists are a completely different segment from idols, and idols are a lot closer to kpop, so i'll be focusing on idols. The response argues that the industry is not perfect but has improved over time Also the way you talk about the "K-Pop" industry and the fact we're on an English speaking forum, leads me to believe that the only knowledge you have about this industry is through the prism The uncomfortable truths can be about the Kpop industry as a whole, it can be about a specific idol, or a specific group. The existence of idols like Wonyoung fueled some of my existential crises, and my perception of age got warped by both Kpop and many teenaged content creators online (as in art, music and writing, not influencers). If you want to learn more about kpop (I assume so, since you created this thread), this is the very first thing you need to be careful of. to be honest its not like kpop replaced hollywood or anything. It lists some examples of abuse, exploitation and prostitution in the industry, A r/Music post responds to a viral post that criticizes the kpop industry for being disturbing and exploitative. However, I feel and thought myself as an a-hole for questioning and being skeptical for the credibility of bullying accusations (whether there is evidence or none) either it is because of my "trauma" response to past idol accusations or I feel meh because either way, we won't I actually really enjoyed first generation group S#arp’s songs (the song “my lips like warm coffee” was originally sung by them). Ofc the kpop industry can still thrive but they just can’t depend on the korean market anymore. It's just easy to generalize the relatively smaller industry that functions in another language, an "other"-ing of the same Welcome to r/kpopthoughts, the friendly community for fans of the Korean music industry and everything within it. They all look similar (not being racist) because they are all molded to fit the Korean standard, which is unrealistic and toxic. Because kpop sells an entire experience, people are more Users share their amazement and appreciation for the fast-paced and diverse content of kpop groups and their behind-the-scenes teams. Especially, in the conversations about the The reddit kpop community was a lot more chill when I got into the genre around 2017 but a lot has changed since then. I understand that fans are use to non fans bashing the Kpop industry and can get tired of it but that doesn’t mean that some of the things they’re saying is wrong. There are really a lot of K-pop artists that are still underage when debuting and this doesn’t even take into consideration their time as a a trainee. but american music industry is also about more than the music and the "cult of personality" around some artists parallels what happens in kpop. E. This is to discourage brigading, trolling and spam, and to keep this subreddit safe. On an semi-related note, that’s one of the main reasons why I strongly disagree when people say NiziU is K-pop. The K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. off the top of my head, what I think about is how large parts of the Hollywood and BTS, they changed the landscape of the kpop industry, made their company the most powerful Korean music company today, and are the reason Kpop gets so much recognition and 2. She's been in the industry since she was very young. Its extremely common for minors to be part of this industry and even if they are like 18 or 19 I still wouldn’t Another thing I wondered about is Korea‘s scary TFR (. s is big on “freedom” and “being real” and that’s quite literally the opposite of the foundations of kpop Its the kpop stars' dirty secrets, not the industry's. You can get help with Identifications, Recommendations, Explanations, or Discussions about K-Pop music, artists, genres, content, or industry/cultural issues. because of this, was much harder for asians to make it big or show their talents globally, but as i said, kpop is becoming something where asians can finally Idols in k-pop don’t have that choice, so that’s a huge difference. Plenty of footage of idols performing to sneering audiences, being humiliated by presenters. 7? or so?) - so there won’t be another generation young of K-pop fans to begin with, and for the Kpop industry to survive they will need to keep their older population still interested. Yeah just as long as you understand the difference between race and ethnicity then we're good. Be sure to look over our rules and guidelines before joining the discussions. Same thing that happens to Kpop happens to Latin music. So it might take time for the frustration of people to reach this level. Using AI to design Kpop content or stages might be cool as well. Now in 4th/5th gen due to the popularity of BTS and Blackpink, and the way KPop has made huge inroads into the fashion world, it's a desirable career. I know a bunch of boygroups have their own pump up hype song about their careers in the Kpop industry but for some reason, I can only think of SKZ's Victory Song and EPEX's Go Big right now lol I'm just curious how different the messaging in these lyrics are so if you know any of these songs, please drop them down below!! >< the truth about the kpop industry is that the majority of idols never had a chance from the beginning. (that tend to depict extreme cases as an industry norm). In addition to music, K-Pop has grown into a popular subculture, resulting in K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. but it would be a sad moment, just like one direction disbanding. Everyone knows about the many problematic issues the kpop industry has, from body image issues, slave contracts and exploitation, lack of regard to physical and mental health, etc. I would go with the idea of if you can't bare to look past this after knowing the dark side of Kpop when streaming any content for enjoyment afterwards, then knowing the dark side would ruin your enjoyment of Kpop. There are in fact many idols that endorse local brands but they won't recieve as much attention as the luxury brand endorsement because of the way kpop fans like to brag. Of course K-pop has more than made up for that with an international audience. While we don't need to burn every idol at the stake who has said something problematic, we don't need to make excuses for things that we know are wrong. the things yall call concepts are the genres. More: full length albums (we're really missing out on them), flexibility in exploring different sounds, acknowledging the culture they're banking on, more desi representation in kpop spaces, collabs with each other especially male with female artists 122 votes, 27 comments. IZ*ONE (2018-2020) was always massively underestimated on this sub View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. AI is changing many industries and it's all about regulating it to ensure it doesn't cause major harm to people I guess. etc. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop Skip to main content To me, Kpop is more than just a genre of music — it’s an entire industry. This means that the idol's personal life and privacy are nonexistent and are constantly looked into and nitpicked by their fanbase. Discrimination against Southeast Asia in subtle way from the KPOP industry? Whenever there is a attempt of creating a ''global'' KPOP group, it always ends with this: 8 out of 10 are koreans, while the I agree with this. 187 votes, 28 comments. O. I'm not saying we have to start banging on CEOs' doors with demands, but I don't understand that as active and passive consumers of Kpop, why this can't be a point of Todd in the Shadow's dedicated subreddit! Watch Todd's One Hit Wonderland, where he takes a look at the full careers of bands and artists known for only one song, or watch Todd's Pop Song Reviews, where he takes one current smash hit song and take it apart, break it down line by line, see what parts work and what doesn't, and analyze where it fits within both current trends and Yeah I notice that when kpop fans discuss idols contract. S labels to Kpop albums being sold in U. I agree with this. I used to think that hypersexualization and infantalization are The Western industry has high profile suicides as well, as well as many many overdoses etc. Park Yoochun. " Image Protection Kpop fans have an image of their idols and often do whatever they can maintain that image. It's high impact, often associated with climax of the song, and it's just an easy way to signal to the lay person who don't know anything about singing that "hey, this person has got some pipes on them!" That’s why ultimately I think it’s all down to the rules of the industry. It’s a shame that it ended in a quite controversial way (the two girls fought, one of them lied about being bullied by the other), there isn’t even their discography on Spotify by now, and it’s rare given that they used to be quite big. Or check it out in the app stores &nbsp; &nbsp; TOPICS. This subreddit is dedicated to all subunits of the K-pop boy group NCT (엔시티 | Neo Culture Technology) under SM Entertainment. I’ve known about K-pop since 2019, and I despise it. a bit unrelated but a thought i had while reading this, as Kpop keeps trying to branch out into the US market, more eyes and scrutiny could spur change in the industry (and maybe even the country, but i won't hold my breath). Bollywood doesn't try that much. Not saying that such contracts are good or bad but 7:3 for company comes out pretty understanding if we take into account that trainees don't work but get accomodation and food, training, plastic operations, dermatologist health care and etc. Looking for stories about other people pushing beyond the limits (specially when it comes to kpop idols, bc it's usually to an unhealthy extent) might feel motivating, but in the end that motivation is coming from comparison (a very unfair one to yourself) which puts unrealistic expectations and even more pressure on you which only leads to feeling worse about your capabilities and View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. there are some issues with how fans perceive them as culturally different from other Asian idols, but they're overall super accepted. s, it will forever be that one popular niche genre but that’s about it. If 90% of the industry were wonderful humans and perfect angels, would they let these bad apples go unpunished for decades at a time? I'm not trying to defend kpop's trainee system as a-OK. Sport fans are the first ones to curse out their team players for sub par performances, whereas kpop fans will go to any length to affirm that a group consistently performs live or any other element that the fandom feels the need to defend. Expand user menu Open settings menu. How can we forget that the kpop entertainment industry is for business. I’m not interested in it. I'm not saying the kpop industry doesn't have problems at all but the way non fans and even some actual kpop stans talk about it is so reductive. My friends and I were talking about kpop and my friends stated that there are many posts where fans were like bts is the whole kpop industry, the industry is nothing without them and that everyone should be thankful to them. EXO Suho attended Stanford University’s Korean Studies conference and the discussion panel on the K-Wave, sharing personal stories as a K-Pop artist on how he has “felt the global influence of the Korean culture in everyday life through the recreatable content. And XG fits the kpop industry, with the idol-fication and music shows and stan culture and visuals/concepts and promotions, so yes, to me, it is kpop. I Using AI to design Kpop content or stages might be cool as well. Even the new girl group new jeans, there are photos of Nothing is going to change in the kpop industry until that country has a long hard look at their culture. You cannot say the same for any kpop groups. No idol group pretends that there isn’t a company behind them and I don’t see many fans believing their firstly, kpop was an industry where asians were allowed to make it big and have a bigger audience for the first time in history, where as foreign industries have always been very popular. agree that kpop is about much more than the music, and the idol personality & parasocial relationships really pull you in more than what happens in american pop. i’m not excusing what the companies do, they do HORRIBLE things to their artists, but you can’t expect everything to be sunshiny and colourful. Stoicism, endurance and perseverance. Is that sub-reddit the problem, or is the k-pop industry in itself more-so problem? Sure, that sub-reddit is sexualizing everyone and everything that idol does. Sure, the comments are just degenerate replies and more. kpop has now taken a shift to cater more towards western audiences. There is western music industry too with artists and their fans too. I love watching the amazing choreography in K-pop and am very happy to see dance practices and performance MVs too. It has a lot of problems. SM founder Lee Soo Man states that the K-Pop industry needs to target the Chinese market to grow bigger. fanchant, photocards, fan "kpop is a manufactured industry" is not the brilliant hot take everyone thinks it is for several reasons. But I'm pretty sure they gave her a way better contract than Loona members. Second of all kpop industry try to cater to more audience like SEA countries, western countries and many more. Having an interesting MV can bring in fans and increase replay value, which can lead to positive first impressions of a group. Nothing in the K-pop fandom is to the extent people try to make it seem. That SS501 guy. But there's something deeply fucked about the Kpop industry. Reply reply A place to ask your K-Pop questions. Industry plant: an artist who has a major/indie label backing their movement but presents themselves as a "home-grown start-up" label to create a pseudo organic following. The entertainment industry in general is terrible and the kpop industry specifically has some uniquely terrible practices. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. Have a fun conversation about K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Rarely is the word kpop used to K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. I agree with what you’re saying. Fans would rather live in la la land than have an honest discussion. The American Music industry definitely still has a lot of this and I imagine the Kpop industry is no exception. I'd absolutely say it was much worse in Korea than it is in somewhere like the US, for instance. That’s the industry rules which define K-pop. I'll start: Taeyeon. but, as both a kpop and jrock fan, it's pretty easy to see that the two just aren't comparable. i’m pretty sure every industry is messed up in one way or another, yet we’re still supporting them. Rosé can't even carry the duty she is assigned on the group (you can say that about all the other 3 but it's most blatant in her case), as she is a main vocalist who has been under scrutinity for her instability while singing live, her lack of stamina, her poor To say that people in the kpop industry are unaware of issues like racism and colorism is false. Looking for an old girls group K-pop music video No I’m not talking about that. You should post this on r/music, the loop industry is not worse than any other industry and especially not the western industry, people talk about K-pop "slave contracts" as if 360 deals don't exist Very brave of you to defend Kpop anywhere but Kpop Reddit, the number of people just commenting “Kpop sucks” as if they’re saying I was wonder, what kpop songs do you know about life of an idol/life in the kpop industry? Sunmi 'Black Pearl' - lyrics are about being an idol/being famous, outside it looks like a perfect life, while the truth is different NCT 127 'My Van' - song talks about riding from one event to another, being tired of endless schedules View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. I feel like more than having plastic surgery itself, the issue is not stating that you have gone through it. Head over to r/kpop for official K-Pop content like music videos and more serious discussions. Just this year, we’ve seen Joshua ruthlessly targeted for having a girlfriend as if he isn’t a grown arse 27 year old man. I wouldn't even call him an authority on kpop. It can be an obvious truth that everybody knows about or it can be a So I think its just a prejudice that the K-pop industry is that bad/scary. It’s nice to see friends within the industry despite being in different groups or agencies. i'm going to preface this by clarifying that jpop is very clearly split between idols and non idols. It’s an unfortunate side effect of the genre becoming a lot more popular. additionally, male and female idol groups are also very clearly split, with little interaction between the two. S stores. T. Ask any casual listener (read: non-kpop stan) what comes into mind when they hear of kpop and most will think about BTS or Blackpink, sometimes TWICE, rarely other groups. Our introduction includes tracks by H. A lot of k-pop certainly emphasizes friendliness, softness and at times androgynous behaviour, which is typically seen as feminine. 5/5 stars. New Blink/ kpop industry question it's pretty much the entirety of the K-pop industry that does these things. it's rock vs pop. Tbf, he was one of those abusing the shit out of that privilege until he had his K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Big 4 privilege exists but I still think these companies are the most consistent when it comes to quality (regarding idols and music). SHINee and their solo acts as Jonghyun, Taemin, Key, Onew, Minho have always pushed new horizons for Kpop, always being an experimental group and keenly setting trends with lasting popularity amongst public, they have brought new fresh concepts and infused vitality in a sagging, over-saturated industry time and time again. I like the human elements of kpop: people writing and singing and expressing human emotions. (So if there was a Reddit post on say, Jihyo and firstly, kpop was an industry where asians were allowed to make it big and have a bigger audience for the first time in history, where as foreign industries have always been very popular. The industry search for more than vocals, dance skills and producing skills, I understand idols that go through that because they There's a nice TED Talk about parasocial relationships — Imaginary Friends and Their Real World Consequence . taemin does have a lot of masculine traits and i don't see why you would think otherwise In Kpop industry we baby idols a hell lot, very unlike Bollywood. A place to ask your K-Pop questions. The elite decide who to let in and who to try to stifle. There's nothing wrong with liking kpop and I'll admit there's several songs that makes their regular rounds in my playlists. Again, its just much huger and the genres are more separated. Ignoring the money aspect, the fans are there because they enjoy the idol(s) and the music, and most of the idols like their music/the messages in their music, so it’s something to bond over. 8M subscribers in the kpop community. Most, if not all the kpop artists I follow have put out a full album within the past 2 years. Prostitution, excessive drinking, a culture of going out to drink with your boss after work, hierarchical culture, misogyny everything is all linked together in many ways. I don’t believe it will disappear on its own. Maybe this is silly to ask with the pandemic happening and all, but I would like to know anyway. I think it's almost a one-off in terms of BTS' success with the American audience. She's an experienced idol. Companies accept Luxury brand endorsements because it is lucrative for the company and the idols. Internet Culture (Viral) The reason is that the K-Pop industry is well known to be really toxic, as idols and trainees are consistently being overworked along with being pressured to meet certain criteria in terms of body Literally all idols are “industry plants” by definition so the term loses its’ meaning when it comes to kpop. it seems as if the number one thing in society that people with power understand is money, and they won't change unless I'm feeling the need to explain that I am a kpop stan that listens to more than just K-pop i have this inkling thought that someone's going to try and "dismantle" my argument by saying I'm only saying this because I listen to just K-pop. I also remember Nayeon (Twice) and Yeri (Red Velvet) have a good relationship too So I was just wondering if there are any friendships like this in the industry? This makes me think about how there's a dark side to everything in the entertainment industry. The kpop industry can be very superficial, as you can tell by the popular idols on Korean polls and brand-identity charts. Imagine there being idol super teams or something. it could grow some more, but it won’t be a drastic improvement. girl groups are most of the industry, while boy K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Western artists don’t experience the same drop off as they get into 30 unless they choose themselves to take time out to have kids etc. Is the K-pop industry corrupt? A friend of awhile ago told me the due to the kpop industry many K-pop artists have committed suicide; is the corruption true? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast It might be difficult to see nepo baby succeed in kpop industry bcs kpop mostly depend on their company who make them. Most of the kpop industry is built on the idol fantasy, that the idol only exists for the fans and is not meant for anyone else. I think this is a good example of how the Kpop industry is very fast-paced, with the need for relevancy being so important. Typically whenever you have young, desperate, attractive people trying to break into an industry that entirely hinges on the breaks you get with a select powerful people, it’s fair to guess there’s some sinister shit that might be no. Was on r/kpopthoughts and read someone's post about Jungkook's album. I'm not saying Korean music industry as a whole is bad, I'm just saying how the k-pop genre has a toxic industry. And finally Indian music is more traditional than kpop because it is not pop music. The pop industry knows this, and this is why singers like Selena Gomez are famous, not because of their technique but for their image/visuals (and maybe unique vocal colour). ” instead of saying: “My favourite member of Fifth Harmony is Normani. Not only that but so many of them dance provocatively and nobody bats an eye. Then from 1st to even 3rd gen KPop had a lot of poor kids trying to be idols to help their families. But suprisingly, even with the kpop surge in japan, there was very few japanese that actually became kpop idols, and most of these japanese kpop idols before misamo were from unknown groups. The latent racism/bigotry that is there, when some fans decide to defend either idols, K-Pop music culture or Korean people, in general. But my question then is, how can the k-pop industry change? To these companies international outreach doesn’t mean as much as national and regional success. Also, yes, every industry adds to this problem and I’d probably say the western industry is worse for this than kpop could ever be because of it has a much bigger influence on huge markets like the US - but this is a kpop page and I think it’s fine we talk about it There are tons of Jaehyuns, Minhyuks, Jiwons, etc in the kpop industry, but name an idol who is so successful that any other person born with that name will have to use a stage name. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on Reddit; Shop Collectible What are some good/smart marketing strategies you've seen/would advice in the kpop industry and for what groups? On a sidenote, seeing that SVT and Pristin are from the same company, I can't help Well kpop fans is also part of the industry as its driving force so imo it can be viewed the same way. K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. One example the hate of Olivia Rodigos live performances, there not perfect and not trying to be, the singing isn't bad and is understanbly shaky and she's jumping up and down and having GENUINE fun but the wave of View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit. r BTS, they changed the landscape of the kpop industry, made their company the most powerful Korean music company today, and are the reason Kpop gets so much recognition and opportunities in the West now. I'm not that familiar with BAP but 1004 is one of my fav songs in kpop Now, I want to hear what isn't a common opinion (on K-pop Reddit at least), or what you had an hard time to share (but if course it can't be just hate speech, you need to write something a minimum constructive). She seems to really knows A place to ask your K-Pop questions. The community for Old School RuneScape discussion on Reddit. kpop is not a genre, kpop idols make r&b, edm, etc GENRE music. You can get help with Identifications, Recommendations, Explanations, or Discussions about K-Pop music, artists, genres, content, or industry/cultural It's still debated whether kpop is a genre or an industry. politics, visas, green cards, raids, deportations, etc. It is true that suicide rates are very high across Asia, but thats not confined to the genre Hello u/Historical-Daikon452. The fans of said industry are also extremely annoying and toxic. I'm basically interested in how new technologies can make things better in general as I don't want to be stuck in the past to a certain extent. I feel like it's such a slight towards the artists and fans when people claim that everything (and everyone) related to the industry is total fabrication. Jisoo talking about Blackpink changing how the world views Kpop and the industry Appreciation Jisoo is going to be the cover star for Elle Singapore and in her interview she was asked “How do you want BLACKPINK to change how the world sees K-pop and the industry?” 105 votes, 24 comments. pltgwae mzk jxy hztm vwhbz olnkxni agrmi alq tltnpj tfpirfk